Loving a man (and being dumped) makes women in daytime C-RA-ZY!
Hannah attempts an overdose after Ford dumps her – this storyline should have been further developed. Despite its origin, it actually has redeeming social value. So it won’t surprise you that instead the writers seem determine to create a Starr-Cole-Hannah triangle just weeks after Hannah’s suicide attempt:
DAYS’ above board top cop Hope Brady decides to terrorize the men of Salem to make up for the fact that she’s been hurt and tossed aside one too many times – of course she’s under the influence of drugs. (Ignore the part where Sami is overly concerned about her rapist – repulsive, I know):
BnB’s Stephanie Forrester can’t stand the fact that Eric has never gotten over Brooke (er, long before he married Brooke’s sister) – jealousy is apparently synonymous with being homicidal in Bell’s ficitionalized L.A.:
To think… one of the first times Eric dumped Steph, she had a mini-stroke, lost her memory, and lived on the streets using Brooke’s mother’s name… Liz… yes, the same ‘Liz’ (Beth) whose death she’s now implicated in.
Way to go turning all that hatred outward, sister… if only the writers would either let Steph seek help and be cured OR be incarcerated. I’ll take either.
This one is a double feature! Stacy Haiduk as AMC’s Hannah Nichols (who may as well give up her life to save the man who didn’t want her, right? Hannah’s death follows what seemed to be an endless stream of mischief and mayhem when Zack refused to allow her to have his child, to replace the adult son they’d lost. It’s even weirder because he later became the donor for his wife’s sister, Bianca, and Bianca’s fiancee Reese – without telling his own wife of course. Where’s the fun in that? He’s not exactly protective with the seed. The man was giving his seed away… to everyone but Hannah that is… who then gave her life for him… see the circular thing going on here? Hannah should have either taken him over the edge with her, on sent him in her place.
Shortly after Hannah’s death, Haiduk re-appears in the form of YnR’s Patty Williams. Patty had her face surgically altered to look like her psychiatrist. Why? To get into bed with the man who married and then betrayed her, causing her to have an accident and miscarriage decades earlier. Those crazy romantic writers of daytime. Man do they understand a woman’s heart!:
Doesn’t every woman lose it when the man who cheated on her and even cheated with his father’s wife, marries another woman?
Patty becomes Emily and then returns to being Patty, who becomes Emily again – oh yeah, you read that right!:
The ultimate classic love starved psycho on the loose! The YnR’s/BnB’s Sheila Carter:
Does this blog really need a closing statment? I think I’ve made my point.
*YnR’s NuMalcolm? Not workin’. I’m trying, folks, I really am, but as good as it is to see Darius McCrary on screen again, this was just the wrong role to cast him in. Though… given the choice between keeping him as Malcolm and keeping KC’s Lily, he wins hands down! Malcolm Winters was an iconic character and unfortunately, McCrary’s interpretation falls flat. I’ve seen McCrary’s work in other projects (including CBS’s Cold Case) and he’s been very good. Something about this role just doesn’t seem to translate well for the actor.
* If GH’s “Franco” came to town because he’s totally obsessed with Jason:
1. Why was it necessary to have Maxie pimped out and risk her relationship with Spinelli? His focus has been Jason the entire time. The side story involving Maxie just doesn’t make sense and seems to be an awful waste of a couple (Maxelli) and a character (Franco). It served no purpose.
2. How can Jason be considered a ‘good guy’ when his actions capture the imagination of a ‘psychotic’ killer? Jason’s murderous exploits have made him an international icon for blood thirsty criminals? Some hero!
3. Why didn’t TPTB just name him Franco Guza? It would make sense of Franco’s obsession with Jason and the Suckpranos. It would have felt more honest. It’s art, seemingly, imitating life.
* Why aren’t the BnB”s Logan women allowed to confront sister Katie with her penchant for betraying her family for the love of her latest squeeze? Katie is 2 for 2, right now, and I’m getting tired of her whining and moaning about how SHE’S been betrayed. Put that attitude away Katie, and if you need help figuring out where to put it, just ask!
* Does anyone else think that ATWT’s Simon and Henry would make a far hotter couple than Luke and Noah? I’m so tired of the on-again-off-again nature of the Nuke relationship that I’m ready to see ATWT’s PTB replace them, NOW. Pay attention ATWT’s writers. OLTL’s writers are separating the men from the boys and writing a real relationship between two characters – who just happen to be gay. Watch and learn… Speaking of OLTL:
* Why the hell did OLTL’s Bo hand Dorian back the only piece of evidence that could convict his niece of stabbing Mitch Laurence? Was that supposed to be a sign of his honesty and integrity? It felt more like evidence of his sheer stupidity, especially since it’s becoming painfully clear to others that Dorian is Mitch’s puppet.
As for Dorian Lord, she is nothing if not devious. I’m not too thrilled with the image of a helpless Dorian Lord constantly caving in to Mitch’s demands. At what point does she put her years of mischief-making to use and takes Mitch down? I’m shocked by the fact that I like seeing Dorian on top, Mayor and chief power broker in Llanview, but I do. Why have that ruined by having her behave like a skittish child, jumping at the sight of her own shadow? MORE kick-ass Dorian, LESS kiss-ass Dorian, please.
* Doesn’t anyone else ever get tired of hearing the BnB’s taylor whine about how Brooke stole her life, and made her miserable? Even I can agree with her that that situation with Jack was traumatic. I sure as hell wouldn’t have wanted to give birth to the biological child of a woman I hated. Taylor didn’t sign on to be a surrogate. She had in vitro in order to have a family with Nick. The child she carried was supposed to be HER child. I get it, but the problem with her whining is that Brooke didn’t cause taylor to ‘lose’ her son. Taylor chose to give him away. She also chose to continue to try to compete with Brooke for Ridge – even when Ridge made it CLEAR that it was Brooke he loved. You can’t ask the woman to stay out of your life, and then constantly throw yourself in the middle of her life and call yourself a victim.
* Why do DAYS writers continue to make my skin crawl by having EJ touch Sami? Yes, yes… he was only comforting her after she received a call from Sydney’s kidnapper…. it’s just that every time he goes near her, I see him holding her at gunpoint. I hear him telling her that the only way to save Lucas is to let him violate her. Every touch makes my skin crawl. Has Sami forgotten how she ended up pregnant with EJ’s spawn (cutie that she is) and the one before her? C’mon writers, give Sami her dignity back and have her tell EJ to keep his gun-toting rapist paws off of her. Her confused ‘feelings’ are degrading and humiliating to watch, speaking as a woman.
Hey, if the actor involved can admit it was rape (comment below from a James Scott interview),
I would be lying if I said I didn’t worry about my future on the soap. I don’t think they handled the rape very well, and I’ll tell you why. EJ raped Sami, and then afterwards, he’s hanging out in her house — alone with her. It’s irresponsible on so many levels. However, had it been handled well, I think it would have been an interesting story choice. Now the story focus has shifted to her pregnancy and the classic soap story of paternity. Having said that, I chose to believe that EJ is in love with Samantha — he just can’t communicate it.
and TPTB can admit it was rape, it was RAPE. He forced her to have sex with him to save the life of the man she loved. You can read a decidedly pro EJami Wikipedia entry with Scott’s comments HERE (that is until someone decides to try to delete the comment).
As for DAYS increasingly dwindling ratings fortunes, is it any wonder that the new focus on Sami and EJ is linked to a rather rapid ratings slide for the show? Good luck selling Ej and Sami as anything other than what they really are: a victim and her obsessive, stalking, rapist.
* For most of the year (plus), All My Children has been largely unwatchable. Color me surprised when I got gooey and nostalgic for Hayley and Mateo’s return (more Hayley than Mateo). Watching Adam soften while talking with Hayley and joke about knowing something about raising ‘difficult children’ was the most priceless moment of that episode for me – Hayley of the dyed dark punk rock hair, now a mother with a wild child of her own. I thought about Brian Bodine, Uncle Pork Chop (Trevor), Natalie down the well, Janet from another Planet, Adam’s dark dark days (which really were different from just his ‘dark’ days), Stuart and Cindy, scheming Arlene Vaughn, the Santos family – even preachy mom and dad, Edmund and Maria, Erica and Dimitri, Bad girl Kendall and sweetheart Del Cooney, The Martin clan, Jeremy, Laurel and her brother Michael, Cliff and Nina, Palmer and Daisy, The Montgomery Brothers and their feud, Brooke English, Phoebe and Langley, Chuck and Tara, Beloved Mona and Myrtle, Ellen and Devon, Mark Dalton, Tom and Sean Cudahy, and so much more… sheesh). I know that not all of the above mentioned characters were on screen at the same time but just those few moments with Adam and Hayley opened a stream of AMC consciousness and I felt warm all over. I miss All my Children – the real All my Children.
* At some point, BnB’s Brooke Logan’s children are going to have to acknowledge (or learn) that there was NO WAR between their mother and Stephanie Douglas. Stephanie has been on the attack against Brooke almost from the moment she met her. Brooke has tried in vain to make peace and keep peace. Brooke does not seek Stephanie out to hurt her or make her miserable as Stephanie has done with her. Brooke hasn’t made a point of trying t0 publicly expose Stephanie for whatever her wrongdoings are – and there are many. Brooke hasn’t tried to turn Stephanie’s children against her, as Stephanie has tried to do with Brooke’s children.
To allow Brooke’s children to continue to think of Stephanie as ‘human’ feels like one of the daytime’s biggest lies. Theirs has been daytime’s biggest farce of a rivalry. A rivalry would require TWO participants. It would require balance. It has neither. In any other galaxy, Stephanie would be acknowledged as the psychotic villainess -bully she’s always been. Calling Stephanie a victim of Brooke’s would be the same as calling GH’s Helena Cassadine a victim of Alexis Davis… Hels only slit Alexis’ mother’s throat in front of her when she was a child and threatened her life every single day from that moment on. The warm and toasty moments between Brooke’s children and the dragon lady leaves me switching channels. When a crazed bee-yotch hands your mother an unregisted gun, while wearing white gloves, and tries to get her to take her life, she’s not your friend. She’s not like a mother to you, she’s not human. When that same woman facilitates your mother’s rape, you’re not suposed to ask her to be a part of your children’s lives. Come on BnB writers, get a grip.
THIS article (posted at The Huffington Post) won’t seem like it has much to do with the comments Victoria Rowell made regarding the status of African-American actors and actresses on the YnR, and daytime in general. If you have the time, however, please read it. If not, at least please view the video below. While neither the article nor the video seem as if they have any connection to the comments leveled by Ms. Rowell or at her since her departure from the genre, I urge you to hang in there with me, and give me a minute to put it all in context.
(WARNING!!!!!!!!!! The video below is of performers appearing in ‘black face’ as the ‘Jackson 5’ and another performer appearing in ‘white face’ as Michael Jackson):
There’s something you need to keep in mind about these performers. They are all real life friends, and real life physicians. They were INVITED to come back and perform that routine, having originally performed it some 20 years ago on the same show -when they were all medical students. Shocking, huh? It blows away the stereotype/the myth that only deeply evil or completely ignorant and uneducated people, all of whom are beyond reason, engage in such inappropriate behaviors. Some acts of racism are intentional, others are not. Some acts of racism are meant to wound, others are not. Some actions aren’t deemed racist in the times they occur, but with reflection we can see the harm they caused.
How will we ever know the difference if we never take another person’s charge of racism seriously when it happens? (That question also includes the other ‘isms’ we often pretend aren’t happening: sexism, ageism, and homophobia/orientationism). If we never embrace and examine another person’s charge of bias when it occurs – we are doomed to repeat damning patterns of inflicting pain. We’ll continue to expect others to live with our messes, grin and bear our ignorance, suffer in silence and just be a good ‘team player’.
As I’m reading the message boards about the ‘conflict’ between Victoria Rowell and Christel Khalil, I’m deeply saddened by the use of the phrase ‘race card’ in reference to Ms. Rowell’s charges that she and other African-American actors were treated unfairly backstage at the YnR. The ‘race card’ charge is being leveled by fans and others, especially given Khalil’s recent interview with Buzzworthy radio (you can hear that interview by clicking: Khalil Interview. It should be noted that Ms. Khalil is not making that charge, to my knowledge).
The next time someone uses that phrase, I would appreciate a definition of the term to accompany it. What does it mean to those who’ve used the term? I’m African-American and I’ve never received one! I don’t know any other person of color who owns one. As I understand it, it’s a ‘get out of <insert problem> free’ card. You can ‘play’ it and everyone around you bends to your will. Is that what it is? And if so, just how is that workin’ <g> for everyone? Who has successfully played this mysterious ‘race card’?
GH dismantled the ‘Asian Quarter’ more than a decade ago. The only lead African-American male, and one who was connected to one of the show’s prominent core families, was found dead and stuffed in the trunk of a car — THE TRUNK — and he was an attorney. Of course, he’s the only prominent attorney I can remember who fell in with the mob and was killed for it. Latinos on GH??? Does Michael’s ex-nanny, Leticia, count? There were the Alcazars, but they were criminals. Sonny? Enough said?
AMC has FINALLY brought the Hubbards back, but the Santos family is long gone.
DAYS? Technically they still have Abe and Lexie, but other than her getting it on with any new (and young) man who comes to town, there isn’t ever much of a storyline for either of them. We’ll see what happens with Rafe and his growing family.
Every soap has its own problems with ‘race’, though OLTL leads the pack in trying to get things right, as far as I’m concerned.
So who has successfully played this ‘race card’? The writers backstage? How many writers of color are there in ALL of daytime? Head writers? Executive Producers? Heads of Daytime of any of the networks? Directors? HELL, stage managers? Whoever these successful ‘race card players’ are, someone should give them Victoria Rowell’s phone number. Apparently they play it well and I’d love to see her back onscreen again! The trouble for Ms. Rowell is that whenever she’s accused of playing it, she’s also accused of being ‘crazy’, or words to that effect.
When Peter Bergman implied that Victoria Rowell was imbalanced for her criticisms of the treatment of minority actors and characters, it was heartbreaking. I can only imagine that Ms. Rowell was in shock, having worked on the same set with the man for so long. I don’t know how she actually felt, I don’t know her. I do know what I felt when I read his words. I know how I reacted as a fan. I was DONE with him. I haven’t rooted for him as an actor, or for his onscreen character, since that time. In a June 2007 Interview with TV Guide
TVG: What did you think of Victoria Rowell [ex-Drucilla, Y&R] lambasting the Emmy system in Soaps in Depth, calling it ‘contaminated,’ and daytime ‘racist’ because she failed to be recognized by her cast? PB: I look at her with compassion and concern. I don’t think she’s playing with a full deck.
TVG: And the work being judged began in January 2006. When the Emmys air, we’re already into half a year of eligibility for next year’s Emmys!
PB: Exactly. It’s a flawed system, which was born from another flawed system. We haven’t perfected it yet. Another weird thing: I got my pre-nomination on either the 16th or 18th of January. When the Emmys air on June 15, it will be half a year this process has been going on! I mean, come on! There is so much about it that’s maddening, especially with the pre-nominations. For Victoria Rowell, I don’t even know what to say about her because she’s not grounded in reality, however, the system does amount to a popularity contest. You’ve heard all the rumours of who is reviled on their soaps, and that ultimately costs them a nomination even if they had the goldest of golden years.
Has any other actor been called ‘crazy’ (or words to that effect) when they’ve commented on the unfair Emmy process? PB dismissed Ms. Rowell without refuting any of her claims. What evidence did he offer that there WAS NO racism either backstage or in the Emmy system? That, in itself, suggests to me that Ms. Rowell was waging an untenable battle on a daily basis. Who took her voice seriously? PB’s comments, in my book, came across as incredibly self-important, ignorant, arrogant, and self-indulgent – that’s THIS fan’s perspective, you may have viewed his comments differently. How many African-American actresses have won a daytime (or even prime time) Emmy as Best Actress? Best Supporting Actress?
Angela Bassett would make Emmy history if she wins lead actress for ‘ER’
There is a spirited debate in the forums about whether Angela Bassett of “ER” should put herself forward in the lead or supporting category at this year’s Emmy Awards. The Oscar-nominated actress (“What’s Love Got to Do With It”) has joined the cast of the NBC medical drama as attending physician Cate Banfield for the final season of its 15-year run. Were she to get a lead nod and then win, Angela Bassett would make Emmy history as the first African American actress to prevail for a regular lead role on a drama series. (Read the rest of the article by clicking on ‘Tom O’Neil’, above)
EMMY HISTORY? In 2009!?!?!? Click HERE for the ‘Prime Time’ list… I could find no such list for Daytime, if you know of one, let me know. My current understand is that NO African-American actress has won for Lead or Supporting.
My interpretation of Mr. Bergman’s comments is that he seems to suggest that things are good for him, so they’re good across the board -, but your mileage may vary in your interpretation. It strikes me as odd because the man was in a storyline about his “Vietnamese family” (and they were treated as such, never fully integrated into the Abbott family and then written off as quick as an eyeblink given what should have been a prominent status). Was that not odd? One of the longest running African-American characters on the show was a woman who served as the Abbott maid, Dru and Olivia’s aunt, a woman named ‘Mamie’ (and if you think about the significance of her name, and her status, you get it). Ashley was Liv’s sorority sister and despite having no other real friends, they almost never speak. The YnR made a big production of signing the first lead Asian-American male role in daytime… and then killed him off relatively soon after: Eric Steinberg’s Ji Min Kim.
NO lead actress/supporting actress Emmys for black actresses, not once in the history of the Emmys and Rowell is ‘not playing with a full deck’? Is it possible that Ms. Rowell isn’t crazy, but that she has a different perspective? Is it possible that she’s thinking about the underside of the industry that doesn’t seem to be openly discussed often enough? The side of the industry that has existed without intense scrutiny for far too long? I’m disheartened when thinking that Ms. Rowell spoke out, alone, and that there were no real advocates on her side – at least none that I could find. I’m disheartened to think that some of her colleagues still seem to think it’s perfectly fine to dismiss her as a ‘difficult’ person, instead of a FRUSTRATED person who may believe that she has to fight for thing things that others seem to take for granted in their work. I’ve been there. I know what it’s like to show up day after day and believe that your contribution won’t carry the same weight as others (who may have even contributed less). I know what it’s like to feel obligated to mention the inequalities and to fight for new standard only to realize that to others it means that you’re being ‘difficult’. I’m saddened that Ms. Rowell seems to be dismissed as a stereotypically ‘angry black female’, rather than having anyone address the merits of her argument. That her argument has not been addressed, but that she instead is the focus of any response I’ve heard, suggests to me that there’s something there worth exploring.
I’m glad to hear Kristoff St. John – also on Buzzworthy Radio, speak out about a similar issue, the problem of diversity overall in daytime and specifically on the YnR (There are no comments from anyone associated with the show which have referred to KSJ as being ‘divorced from reality’, as far as I know!). It seems that most of the core Winters family have spoken up about the same issue. You can hear the KSJ interview by clicking HERE.
For the record, I don’t think that the actors, writers, producers, and others are overtly racist. That’s not the point of this article. The point of this article is that no matter where we are in our lives, there are very good people, all of whom mean well, but who sometimes have poor judgment – as with our physician friends above. We are sadly as not introspective about our own ideas, motives, actions as we are judgmental about those of others. As I think about Ms Rowell’s reactions to very serious issues related to racial diversity in daytime, I am empathetic. To not want to be subjected to well-meaning, yet still soul searing, unintentional assaults does not make one:
mean and nasty
or any other adjective you might add with a similar sentiment. It just makes you tired and, yes, sometimes a little angry. There’s a reason Ms. Rowell has continued to be embraced by so many African-American viewers, and not just as ‘Drucilla’. I would love for her to continue to speak out, and for others to listen, and to ultimately correct any situation that bears correcting.
Edited to add a great big special thanks to the brilliant-as-always Adampascalfan for the comment about Debbie Morgan. I found this: “…The talented thespian, who portrays sensible and nurturing Dr. Angela Baxter Hubbard on ABC’s long-running soap opera, became the first (and) only African-American actress to win a Daytime Emmy Award in 1989 when she won (in a tie-can’t the Emmy jurors let a sister get her shine on solo?) when she won for Best Supporting Actress…” Essence
Just one of several questions and answers from Michael Logan’s insightful interview:
You’ve stayed true to Y&R since the day you arrived. Unlike many other actors in daytime, you never quit to go pursue other roles.
I’ve never left and I’ve been on the show for nearly 30 years now. What the soap medium has given me is a chance to play a huge scale of emotions that one rarely has a chance to play in primetime or film, and I have appreciated that enormously. But, as it turns out, the contracts you sign are not worth the paper they’re written on thanks to this ridiculous clause where they have a right to change anything or let you go every 26 weeks. It’s a joke. Our union ought to be ashamed of itself for having [allowed] this. And for the show to actually invoke that clause after one has served loyally and lovingly for 30 years is unconscionably ungracious.
Many fans have stayed loyal, too, and we’re also getting the big kiss off when TPTB keep killing off and getting rid of beloved vets and giving us ‘substitutes’ instead. Read the rest of this interview by clicking HERE. The entire enterview is a ‘must read’ for any daytime fan, not just fans of the YnR, or TGVN, Himself!
This is not yet another blog about the ‘death of daytime’. There are plenty of those – though I would never say that there could ever be ”too many’ if the goal of the ‘daytime death’ writers is to get you to see what a mockery you’re making of the genre. The “daytime death” writers are writers who are hopeful that you’ll stop talking about the ‘know-nothing’ soap fans you seem to believe deserve only 1- ridicule for their opinions and 2- your ‘enlightened’ view of daytime. They seem to hope that you’ll finally start listening to us. What they don’t realize is the fact that you haven’t listened to us all along means that you probably won’t listen at this late stage of the game. Why you aren’t listening is a mystery. It’s a question I’ve asked both directly and indirectly in various blog entries (not that you read them). I think I finally understand why you’ve refused to give us what we wanted, when you could have done so long before you hit the point of no return in the ratings.
It would mean that you would have to admit that you were wrong, that you didn’t know us better than we know ourselves. Your choice was to embrace falling ratings as long as you were able to present your vision of daytime. Like any bad ‘marriage’, things weren’t going to get better as long as only on ‘side’ was compromising. We, the fans, were always willing to compromise and bend, until you broke us – see GH’s Scrubs’ PPD storyline, the Mob Storyline, and Liz and Jason as example..
We are now at a bitter end and as much as most of daytime often sucks, it will still be a bitter end for many of us who love the genre, just not what it became. It’s a tragedy that the shows you’re now offering will probably be better remembered than the glorious daytime history you ran away from. To TPTB specifically at The Guiding Light, the untimely death of the show was announced on April 1st. (so, someone up at the executive suites has a wicked sense of humor. I would have accepted a real interest in saving daytime, instead) That means that there were probably around 3 to 4 weeks of the show filmed and in the can, ready to air, That means that by May-June the writers should have been able to turn the show around rather than give fans a steady diet of doom and gloom that the show has become before it ends. While I have nothing good to say about the Bold and Beautiful as it currently airs, what I can say that’s relatively positive is that BnB writers know how to ditch a ratings dropping storyline in a matter of weeks (See Brooke and Nick pairings 1, 2, 3 and nearly 4). It’s unclear to me how you who run GL haven’t managed to make us feel good about what’s left of the show.
To all of you -powers that be, in general, I hope to appeal to you from a different perspective. Daytime is dying, and it’s not completely your fault. The market is changing, the population is changing, our options for entertainment have changed. You didn’t necessarily ‘kill’ daytime. You just assisted in its early death. You refused to accept the changes and refused to allow daytime to ‘grow up’. Not appealing? I didn’t think so, but here’s what might appeal to you:
Whether or not you’re thinking about it this way, what happens at the end of your shows means that you’re working on two fronts. 1 – You’re determining your legacy in daytime, and 2 – You’re auditioning for your future jobs. The gods of prime time may or may not watch daytime. I can only believe that they’ll be highly skeptical of hiring daytime writers, producers, and directors based on your current work. Your legacy appears to be an unwillingness to do whatever you have to in order to right the ship… you prefer to continue forward on a dangerous course and sink the ship. The gods of prime time might even pay attention to what fans have to say about how you handled the shows they loved for decades, understanding that those fans are unlikely to follow you to new projects. Prime time shows don’t typically last beyond 5 – 6 seasons. There is an eventual and much quicker ‘end’ for those shows than there is for daytime. What will you do to prime time fans if you continue screwing over fans who’ve followed your daytime shows for decades? What do you have to offer prime time overall? Where will YOUR vision of storytelling fit in with prime time? Which prime time shows:
1. … bring characters back from ‘the dead’ so many times that it’s not even worth holding a funeral, mourning a death, or issuing a death certificate? Yes, it’s one of those events that’s written off as a ‘typical daytime storyline’. When the ‘back from the dead’ storylines made sense, fans could tolerate them. Now? They’re offered without thought about the impact they have on the current set of storylines. They’re offered despite the fact that they make a mockery of storylines fans have seen ‘in full’… what character comes back from the dead after nearly a week in an OPEN casket, and having been kissed good-bye by relatives? No funny smells? Ya’ couldn’t tell you were kissing a wax dummy in a wig? Great, BnB. Not much better GL, DAYS, OLTL, GH, and all other shows on air.
2. …frequently use misattributed paternity (or maternity) with almost every pregnancy? The alternate problem pregnancy storylines include: Man/woman sleeps with the wrong person – some villain who reveals her/himself too late and a pregnancy happens. YAWN! Where do you see that happening repeatedly on any prime time show? (All soaps)
3. … use the ‘buried alive’ storyline to teach a character a lesson? Any time you see the ‘buried alive’ storyline in prime time, the buried victim is just that, a VICTIM, not a busybody know-it-all who has to be taught a lesson. The perpetrator is considered PSYCHOTIC since burying a person alive is considered a PSYCHOTIC behavior. In daytime? He (and the perp is more often a ‘he’ than ‘she’) is considered ‘misunderstood’. He’s defended by the people who love him, and he never serves jail time. I just don’ t see you being hired on CSI – any franchise, Law and Order – any franchise, Criminal Minds, etc, etc, etc… Shame on you DAYS for using this storyline multiple times.
4. … feature mothers and daughters (or fathers and sons for that matter) sharing the same love interests, both being in love with the same man and both carrying children for the same man? Prime time tends to treat that sort of behavior as pathological, or at least pseudo-incestuous. The BnB stands out as daytime’s most incestuous daytime show.
5. …use rape to ‘redeem’ women thought of as ‘bad girls’? Which prime time shows offer rape as romance? The storylines you often tell aren’t about where couples ‘end up’ in prime time. They’re about where couples ‘start out’. There’s an assault (date rape or otherwise), the assault is investigated, a suspect is arrested, there is a trial. The end. For you in daytime? Where do your rape survivor-rape perpetrator end up? The woman realizes that the man who assaulted her isn’t all that bad (whether he drugs her, holds a gun on her, threatens the people she loves, etc). He only raped her because he couldn’t control his passion for her. In fact, it’s not even rape. It was just a bad night… so you have them marry, and have children, and pretend the assault never happen. (All are guilty).
Were “rape-as-romance” storylines around in the ‘glorious days’ of daytime? Yes.
Were sexist, racist, orientationist storylines around as well? Yes.
The difference between now and then? We didn’t know better then, we do NOW, and you’re refusing to change. Daytime must be a pretty insular world where nothing has to change, characters aren’t required to grow, and no one ever has to learn from a mistake, crimes are just about people having a little fun or “behaving badly” so what’s the sense in punishing anyone?
Good luck selling your staple storylines to prime time big wigs who want to know what you have to offer them. Good luck trying to convince them that even if you haven’t been able to come up with an imaginative storyline in the (x) years you’ve worked in daytime, you can do just for them. Good luck trying to convince them that you understand the current prime time audience when you can’t even figure out what to do to keep the relatively forgiving and loyal daytime audience happy.
Most of all? Good luck convincing them that you won’t screw their fans over in the end as so many of you are doing now with daytime audiences. Daytime soaps once honored fans and their shows’ histories as they concluded. It was important to let the fans know that the writers, directors, producers and other powers-that-be had done the best they could, and wanted fans to remember the show fondly now that it would no longer air.
In case you’ve missed it, TV Guide’s Michael Logan interviews the ONE, the ONLY, the IRREPLACEABLE Melody Thomas Scott. Despite battling ironclad non-disclosure clauses, daytime’s consummate professional tries his damnedest to elicit a response to this interesting tidbit:
I heard that Eric Braeden [Victor] called CBS chief Les Moonves to complain about the way you were being treated in this contract situation, and that Moonves stepped in and made magic happen. True?
[Long pause, followed by a sigh] Where’d you hear that? [Laughs]
Nice try, Michael Logan, nice try! The entire interview is eye-opening and more than worth the time it would take to read it. As I’ve heard, Mr. Braeden has always been referred to as an ‘actor’s actor’. His legend, true or not, has been that he’s fought for his colleagues backstage when he felt that they were treated unfairly. He has never been shy about commenting on what he thinks of the TPTB when they make lousy decisions that could affect the fans, and the long term health of the show or the genre.
I can only imagine how much different daytime would have been if those of Eric Braeden’s caliber were permitted to run daytime. His respect for fans, the show and its history, as well as his colleagues makes him daytime’s brightest star, in my book.
He and Melody Thomas Scott have been a large part of the YnR’s success as daytime’s perennial fan favorite and it’s hard for me to imagine that anyone would allow themselves to forget the contributions of both. What’s up with the (arrogance? delusional state? ignorance?) that permits TPTB to believe that their brand is strong because of the writing ONLY, or that actors really are interchangeable commodities. Nah… fans won’t care. They don’t notice things like that. NOPE! Fans are just WAITING for TPTB to higher one more non-Actor model, and teenaged kid looking for the coolest extended summer job EVER! Yup, that’s what we want. That’s why we’re tuning in in droves. We’d never notice if they just killed Nikki off, or replaced her with a 20 something long lost daughter.
While I have not always been a Victor-Nikki fan, I have always been a fan of EB and MTS. I respect both enough to know that they’ve given the YnR it’s most enduring signature couple through the hard work they bring to the set every day (even when the writing wasn’t worth talking about – or at least not worth talking about without the inclusion of a list of expletives long enough to make a trucker blush). Thank goodness they’ll both be around for at least a while longer.
The gods of daytime may not know how important they are to us, and it would be a shame for them to find out too late, when the ratings tank and fans are gone for good.
On another note, here’s a great read from Telewatcher! Writers, working the “Gotcha” moment in place of the “That was Amazing moment”? What a shame because we all deserve better! I thought of it in context with the news the MTS was both leaving and thankfully returning!
Looking at the current ratings, my only thought was that I’ve been shocked that the ratings haven’t been LOWER, for all soaps (ok, maybe except the YnR). I’m finding most of daytime either boring or unwatchable and wondered how many others have as well. I’ve been filing my time with reruns of prime time shows, or gardening, more of the latter, less of the former. The full ratings report is posted at SON but here are my thoughts:
1. Y&R 3.4/11 (-.1/-.1) <—- ties low (Last time: November 10-14, 2008)
It’s a dark show, but still watchable, and as long as it doesn’t get too much darker, I can’t see any sudden huge drops for the YnR. I bet someone a while ago that ‘Mary Jane’ was indeed Patti Williams. How bad does Victor SUCK? I love him, hate him, love to hate him. The man who is so protective of his family (as long as they haven’t pissed him off) is using Paul’s psychologically troubled sister to go after Jack Abbott?
Victor is such an asshat!
2. B&B 2.2/7 (-.2/-.4) <—– new low (Previous low: 2.4/8 for June 1-5, 2009)
Stephanie/Ridge/Taylor are TOXIC! Ridge’s pill addiction, Steph leaving him alone while he’s drugged, and now the pill-bang between Ridge and Taylor – one that leaves Ridge with unbearable guilt. This storyline just leaves me with an unbearable desire to watch something else…
I’ll celebrate the wedding between Bridget and Nick (it’s GREAT to have Ashley Jones back on screen again. CONGRATS on the success of True Blood AJ – the season opening ratings were higher THIS season than for last!)
The Jackie and Owen relationship? It may as well be dead. It started off well enough, until Jackie blackmailed Owen into staying with her and now it seems that Owen is manipulating her to get to her money. Owen was never a well defined character. He started out sleazy, became an instant hero, and is back to potentially being a sleaze again. No thanks.
3. DAYS 2.1/7 (+.1/+.2)
Arianne Zucker still drives this show for me, but I can’t see that happening too much longer. No matter what “Nicole” does to prove her love, EJ will find a way to return back to his normal state – a stooge for Sami. I still can’t stomach the idea that Sami has children with the man who sexually assaulted her and that they have ‘feelings’ for each other.
I was thinking of watching DAYS for a while. I just remembered why watching prime time reruns would be less aggravating.
4. GH 1.9/6 (same/-.3)
Scrubs shower scene? VERY Funny and VERY SEXY. If only GH writers wrote more of that. If that scene has any impact on next week’s ratings, GH is in good shape. The problem is that you’ll have to FF past Remily/Ethan/Rick/Sonny/Sonny threatening Claudia/Jason Threatening Claudia/FrankenMichael/FrankenMichael screaming at Carly/Pot-smoking Christina (who appears to be more of a girlfriend than sister to Michael… it’s skeeving me out). While FFing, stop long enough to catch Maxie and Spinelli scenes. They just keep getting CUTER! Love them. OH…and Tracy is getting her brain back, even if temporarily. She’s figured out that there’s bad news a-comin’ in the form of Remily and Ethan and she’s not letting up off of them.
5. AMC 1.8/6 (same/-.2) <—- ties low (Last time: June 1-5, 2009)
Is that show still on air?
5. OLTL 1.8/6 (-.1/-.3) <—- ties low (Last time: May 25-29, 2009)
I want to be able to watch long enough to cheer on Sean and Rachel… but I’d have to watch the rest of OLTL. … and I can’t go for that, noooo, no can do! – Just a little Hall and Oates for you. Psssst… don’t tell anyone, but I did secretly like the positive pregnancy test for Marcy. Anything that ends obsessive Babymania for daytime women rocks in MY book.
7. ATWT 1.6/5 (-.1/-.3) <—- new low (Previous low: 1.7/6 for June 1-5, 2009)
8. GL 1.3/4 (-.1/-.3) <—— new low (Previous low: 1.4/4 for June 1-5, 2009)
makes.zero.sense. Why are the writers determined to annoy me? Where’s the Liv who doesn’t care WHAT people think of her or her love life? Couldn’t the writers have come up with some other way to cover JL’s (Natalia) maternity leave? Otalia has decided that they need to spend some time apart to prove to others they really are in love, that their relationship isn’t about having both loved Gus and missing him since his death.
They have to “break up” and stay apart to prove it’s not desperation and sadness pulling them together? W.T.F? Where is the tough as nails Olivia who didn’t give a damn what others thought? So if they come back together in a couple of months, what’s changed? This storyline was so brilliantly told as it moved along. Now? Somewhere, a high school ‘creative writing’ class is getting a hell of a lot of practice writing a network soap… at least it feels that way.
The writers should have been working on the break up plan for Jeffeva, instead! I have to wonder if ‘hero hubby’ returns and sees Josh and Reva getting close and ends up taking off again. The Hero Hubby plan has been laughable from the beginning. Josh left his OWN footprints (and trace evidence from his pants, hands, etc) in the same field where he planted Jefferies footprints… the plan went downhill from there!
Remy and his father. The Diamonds. The 35K (34+) repayment for a loan that ‘saved’ the family home. This is a family that is supposed to be wealthy. Is that the best the writers could do? Not $350,000.00? Not $1.350,000.00? <sigh>
BethAnn Bonner who is a wonderful actress in a cartoon role linked to Cyrus – and just WHY was it necessary for Cyrus to return?
I think that the 1.3 is a generous rating, given the storylines and the scenery. Has CBS cheaped out on GL? The indoor scenery is getting uglier. They’ve already killed the show, can’t CBS loosen up the purse strings and send this show out in style?