Loving a man (and being dumped) makes women in daytime C-RA-ZY!
Hannah attempts an overdose after Ford dumps her – this storyline should have been further developed. Despite its origin, it actually has redeeming social value. So it won’t surprise you that instead the writers seem determine to create a Starr-Cole-Hannah triangle just weeks after Hannah’s suicide attempt:
DAYS’ above board top cop Hope Brady decides to terrorize the men of Salem to make up for the fact that she’s been hurt and tossed aside one too many times – of course she’s under the influence of drugs. (Ignore the part where Sami is overly concerned about her rapist – repulsive, I know):
BnB’s Stephanie Forrester can’t stand the fact that Eric has never gotten over Brooke (er, long before he married Brooke’s sister) – jealousy is apparently synonymous with being homicidal in Bell’s ficitionalized L.A.:
To think… one of the first times Eric dumped Steph, she had a mini-stroke, lost her memory, and lived on the streets using Brooke’s mother’s name… Liz… yes, the same ‘Liz’ (Beth) whose death she’s now implicated in.
Way to go turning all that hatred outward, sister… if only the writers would either let Steph seek help and be cured OR be incarcerated. I’ll take either.
This one is a double feature! Stacy Haiduk as AMC’s Hannah Nichols (who may as well give up her life to save the man who didn’t want her, right? Hannah’s death follows what seemed to be an endless stream of mischief and mayhem when Zack refused to allow her to have his child, to replace the adult son they’d lost. It’s even weirder because he later became the donor for his wife’s sister, Bianca, and Bianca’s fiancee Reese – without telling his own wife of course. Where’s the fun in that? He’s not exactly protective with the seed. The man was giving his seed away… to everyone but Hannah that is… who then gave her life for him… see the circular thing going on here? Hannah should have either taken him over the edge with her, on sent him in her place.
Shortly after Hannah’s death, Haiduk re-appears in the form of YnR’s Patty Williams. Patty had her face surgically altered to look like her psychiatrist. Why? To get into bed with the man who married and then betrayed her, causing her to have an accident and miscarriage decades earlier. Those crazy romantic writers of daytime. Man do they understand a woman’s heart!:
Doesn’t every woman lose it when the man who cheated on her and even cheated with his father’s wife, marries another woman?
Patty becomes Emily and then returns to being Patty, who becomes Emily again – oh yeah, you read that right!:
The ultimate classic love starved psycho on the loose! The YnR’s/BnB’s Sheila Carter:
Does this blog really need a closing statment? I think I’ve made my point.
*YnR’s NuMalcolm? Not workin’. I’m trying, folks, I really am, but as good as it is to see Darius McCrary on screen again, this was just the wrong role to cast him in. Though… given the choice between keeping him as Malcolm and keeping KC’s Lily, he wins hands down! Malcolm Winters was an iconic character and unfortunately, McCrary’s interpretation falls flat. I’ve seen McCrary’s work in other projects (including CBS’s Cold Case) and he’s been very good. Something about this role just doesn’t seem to translate well for the actor.
* If GH’s “Franco” came to town because he’s totally obsessed with Jason:
1. Why was it necessary to have Maxie pimped out and risk her relationship with Spinelli? His focus has been Jason the entire time. The side story involving Maxie just doesn’t make sense and seems to be an awful waste of a couple (Maxelli) and a character (Franco). It served no purpose.
2. How can Jason be considered a ‘good guy’ when his actions capture the imagination of a ‘psychotic’ killer? Jason’s murderous exploits have made him an international icon for blood thirsty criminals? Some hero!
3. Why didn’t TPTB just name him Franco Guza? It would make sense of Franco’s obsession with Jason and the Suckpranos. It would have felt more honest. It’s art, seemingly, imitating life.
* Why aren’t the BnB”s Logan women allowed to confront sister Katie with her penchant for betraying her family for the love of her latest squeeze? Katie is 2 for 2, right now, and I’m getting tired of her whining and moaning about how SHE’S been betrayed. Put that attitude away Katie, and if you need help figuring out where to put it, just ask!
* Does anyone else think that ATWT’s Simon and Henry would make a far hotter couple than Luke and Noah? I’m so tired of the on-again-off-again nature of the Nuke relationship that I’m ready to see ATWT’s PTB replace them, NOW. Pay attention ATWT’s writers. OLTL’s writers are separating the men from the boys and writing a real relationship between two characters – who just happen to be gay. Watch and learn… Speaking of OLTL:
* Why the hell did OLTL’s Bo hand Dorian back the only piece of evidence that could convict his niece of stabbing Mitch Laurence? Was that supposed to be a sign of his honesty and integrity? It felt more like evidence of his sheer stupidity, especially since it’s becoming painfully clear to others that Dorian is Mitch’s puppet.
As for Dorian Lord, she is nothing if not devious. I’m not too thrilled with the image of a helpless Dorian Lord constantly caving in to Mitch’s demands. At what point does she put her years of mischief-making to use and takes Mitch down? I’m shocked by the fact that I like seeing Dorian on top, Mayor and chief power broker in Llanview, but I do. Why have that ruined by having her behave like a skittish child, jumping at the sight of her own shadow? MORE kick-ass Dorian, LESS kiss-ass Dorian, please.
* Doesn’t anyone else ever get tired of hearing the BnB’s taylor whine about how Brooke stole her life, and made her miserable? Even I can agree with her that that situation with Jack was traumatic. I sure as hell wouldn’t have wanted to give birth to the biological child of a woman I hated. Taylor didn’t sign on to be a surrogate. She had in vitro in order to have a family with Nick. The child she carried was supposed to be HER child. I get it, but the problem with her whining is that Brooke didn’t cause taylor to ‘lose’ her son. Taylor chose to give him away. She also chose to continue to try to compete with Brooke for Ridge – even when Ridge made it CLEAR that it was Brooke he loved. You can’t ask the woman to stay out of your life, and then constantly throw yourself in the middle of her life and call yourself a victim.
* Why do DAYS writers continue to make my skin crawl by having EJ touch Sami? Yes, yes… he was only comforting her after she received a call from Sydney’s kidnapper…. it’s just that every time he goes near her, I see him holding her at gunpoint. I hear him telling her that the only way to save Lucas is to let him violate her. Every touch makes my skin crawl. Has Sami forgotten how she ended up pregnant with EJ’s spawn (cutie that she is) and the one before her? C’mon writers, give Sami her dignity back and have her tell EJ to keep his gun-toting rapist paws off of her. Her confused ‘feelings’ are degrading and humiliating to watch, speaking as a woman.
Hey, if the actor involved can admit it was rape (comment below from a James Scott interview),
I would be lying if I said I didn’t worry about my future on the soap. I don’t think they handled the rape very well, and I’ll tell you why. EJ raped Sami, and then afterwards, he’s hanging out in her house — alone with her. It’s irresponsible on so many levels. However, had it been handled well, I think it would have been an interesting story choice. Now the story focus has shifted to her pregnancy and the classic soap story of paternity. Having said that, I chose to believe that EJ is in love with Samantha — he just can’t communicate it.
and TPTB can admit it was rape, it was RAPE. He forced her to have sex with him to save the life of the man she loved. You can read a decidedly pro EJami Wikipedia entry with Scott’s comments HERE (that is until someone decides to try to delete the comment).
As for DAYS increasingly dwindling ratings fortunes, is it any wonder that the new focus on Sami and EJ is linked to a rather rapid ratings slide for the show? Good luck selling Ej and Sami as anything other than what they really are: a victim and her obsessive, stalking, rapist.
* For most of the year (plus), All My Children has been largely unwatchable. Color me surprised when I got gooey and nostalgic for Hayley and Mateo’s return (more Hayley than Mateo). Watching Adam soften while talking with Hayley and joke about knowing something about raising ‘difficult children’ was the most priceless moment of that episode for me – Hayley of the dyed dark punk rock hair, now a mother with a wild child of her own. I thought about Brian Bodine, Uncle Pork Chop (Trevor), Natalie down the well, Janet from another Planet, Adam’s dark dark days (which really were different from just his ‘dark’ days), Stuart and Cindy, scheming Arlene Vaughn, the Santos family – even preachy mom and dad, Edmund and Maria, Erica and Dimitri, Bad girl Kendall and sweetheart Del Cooney, The Martin clan, Jeremy, Laurel and her brother Michael, Cliff and Nina, Palmer and Daisy, The Montgomery Brothers and their feud, Brooke English, Phoebe and Langley, Chuck and Tara, Beloved Mona and Myrtle, Ellen and Devon, Mark Dalton, Tom and Sean Cudahy, and so much more… sheesh). I know that not all of the above mentioned characters were on screen at the same time but just those few moments with Adam and Hayley opened a stream of AMC consciousness and I felt warm all over. I miss All my Children – the real All my Children.
* At some point, BnB’s Brooke Logan’s children are going to have to acknowledge (or learn) that there was NO WAR between their mother and Stephanie Douglas. Stephanie has been on the attack against Brooke almost from the moment she met her. Brooke has tried in vain to make peace and keep peace. Brooke does not seek Stephanie out to hurt her or make her miserable as Stephanie has done with her. Brooke hasn’t made a point of trying t0 publicly expose Stephanie for whatever her wrongdoings are – and there are many. Brooke hasn’t tried to turn Stephanie’s children against her, as Stephanie has tried to do with Brooke’s children.
To allow Brooke’s children to continue to think of Stephanie as ‘human’ feels like one of the daytime’s biggest lies. Theirs has been daytime’s biggest farce of a rivalry. A rivalry would require TWO participants. It would require balance. It has neither. In any other galaxy, Stephanie would be acknowledged as the psychotic villainess -bully she’s always been. Calling Stephanie a victim of Brooke’s would be the same as calling GH’s Helena Cassadine a victim of Alexis Davis… Hels only slit Alexis’ mother’s throat in front of her when she was a child and threatened her life every single day from that moment on. The warm and toasty moments between Brooke’s children and the dragon lady leaves me switching channels. When a crazed bee-yotch hands your mother an unregisted gun, while wearing white gloves, and tries to get her to take her life, she’s not your friend. She’s not like a mother to you, she’s not human. When that same woman facilitates your mother’s rape, you’re not suposed to ask her to be a part of your children’s lives. Come on BnB writers, get a grip.
THIS article (posted at The Huffington Post) won’t seem like it has much to do with the comments Victoria Rowell made regarding the status of African-American actors and actresses on the YnR, and daytime in general. If you have the time, however, please read it. If not, at least please view the video below. While neither the article nor the video seem as if they have any connection to the comments leveled by Ms. Rowell or at her since her departure from the genre, I urge you to hang in there with me, and give me a minute to put it all in context.
(WARNING!!!!!!!!!! The video below is of performers appearing in ‘black face’ as the ‘Jackson 5′ and another performer appearing in ‘white face’ as Michael Jackson):
There’s something you need to keep in mind about these performers. They are all real life friends, and real life physicians. They were INVITED to come back and perform that routine, having originally performed it some 20 years ago on the same show -when they were all medical students. Shocking, huh? It blows away the stereotype/the myth that only deeply evil or completely ignorant and uneducated people, all of whom are beyond reason, engage in such inappropriate behaviors. Some acts of racism are intentional, others are not. Some acts of racism are meant to wound, others are not. Some actions aren’t deemed racist in the times they occur, but with reflection we can see the harm they caused.
How will we ever know the difference if we never take another person’s charge of racism seriously when it happens? (That question also includes the other ‘isms’ we often pretend aren’t happening: sexism, ageism, and homophobia/orientationism). If we never embrace and examine another person’s charge of bias when it occurs – we are doomed to repeat damning patterns of inflicting pain. We’ll continue to expect others to live with our messes, grin and bear our ignorance, suffer in silence and just be a good ‘team player’.
As I’m reading the message boards about the ‘conflict’ between Victoria Rowell and Christel Khalil, I’m deeply saddened by the use of the phrase ‘race card’ in reference to Ms. Rowell’s charges that she and other African-American actors were treated unfairly backstage at the YnR. The ‘race card’ charge is being leveled by fans and others, especially given Khalil’s recent interview with Buzzworthy radio (you can hear that interview by clicking: Khalil Interview. It should be noted that Ms. Khalil is not making that charge, to my knowledge).
The next time someone uses that phrase, I would appreciate a definition of the term to accompany it. What does it mean to those who’ve used the term? I’m African-American and I’ve never received one! I don’t know any other person of color who owns one. As I understand it, it’s a ‘get out of <insert problem> free’ card. You can ‘play’ it and everyone around you bends to your will. Is that what it is? And if so, just how is that workin’ <g> for everyone? Who has successfully played this mysterious ‘race card’?
GH dismantled the ‘Asian Quarter’ more than a decade ago. The only lead African-American male, and one who was connected to one of the show’s prominent core families, was found dead and stuffed in the trunk of a car — THE TRUNK — and he was an attorney. Of course, he’s the only prominent attorney I can remember who fell in with the mob and was killed for it. Latinos on GH??? Does Michael’s ex-nanny, Leticia, count? There were the Alcazars, but they were criminals. Sonny? Enough said?
AMC has FINALLY brought the Hubbards back, but the Santos family is long gone.
DAYS? Technically they still have Abe and Lexie, but other than her getting it on with any new (and young) man who comes to town, there isn’t ever much of a storyline for either of them. We’ll see what happens with Rafe and his growing family.
Every soap has its own problems with ‘race’, though OLTL leads the pack in trying to get things right, as far as I’m concerned.
So who has successfully played this ‘race card’? The writers backstage? How many writers of color are there in ALL of daytime? Head writers? Executive Producers? Heads of Daytime of any of the networks? Directors? HELL, stage managers? Whoever these successful ‘race card players’ are, someone should give them Victoria Rowell’s phone number. Apparently they play it well and I’d love to see her back onscreen again! The trouble for Ms. Rowell is that whenever she’s accused of playing it, she’s also accused of being ‘crazy’, or words to that effect.
When Peter Bergman implied that Victoria Rowell was imbalanced for her criticisms of the treatment of minority actors and characters, it was heartbreaking. I can only imagine that Ms. Rowell was in shock, having worked on the same set with the man for so long. I don’t know how she actually felt, I don’t know her. I do know what I felt when I read his words. I know how I reacted as a fan. I was DONE with him. I haven’t rooted for him as an actor, or for his onscreen character, since that time. In a June 2007 Interview with TV Guide
TVG: What did you think of Victoria Rowell [ex-Drucilla, Y&R] lambasting the Emmy system in Soaps in Depth, calling it ‘contaminated,’ and daytime ‘racist’ because she failed to be recognized by her cast?
PB: I look at her with compassion and concern. I don’t think she’s playing with a full deck.
TVG: And the work being judged began in January 2006. When the Emmys air, we’re already into half a year of eligibility for next year’s Emmys!
PB: Exactly. It’s a flawed system, which was born from another flawed system. We haven’t perfected it yet. Another weird thing: I got my pre-nomination on either the 16th or 18th of January. When the Emmys air on June 15, it will be half a year this process has been going on! I mean, come on! There is so much about it that’s maddening, especially with the pre-nominations. For Victoria Rowell, I don’t even know what to say about her because she’s not grounded in reality, however, the system does amount to a popularity contest. You’ve heard all the rumours of who is reviled on their soaps, and that ultimately costs them a nomination even if they had the goldest of golden years.
Has any other actor been called ‘crazy’ (or words to that effect) when they’ve commented on the unfair Emmy process? PB dismissed Ms. Rowell without refuting any of her claims. What evidence did he offer that there WAS NO racism either backstage or in the Emmy system? That, in itself, suggests to me that Ms. Rowell was waging an untenable battle on a daily basis. Who took her voice seriously? PB’s comments, in my book, came across as incredibly self-important, ignorant, arrogant, and self-indulgent – that’s THIS fan’s perspective, you may have viewed his comments differently. How many African-American actresses have won a daytime (or even prime time) Emmy as Best Actress? Best Supporting Actress?
From Tom O’Neil (March 2009):
Angela Bassett would make Emmy history if she wins lead actress for ‘ER’
There is a spirited debate in the forums about whether Angela Bassett of “ER” should put herself forward in the lead or supporting category at this year’s Emmy Awards. The Oscar-nominated actress (“What’s Love Got to Do With It”) has joined the cast of the NBC medical drama as attending physician Cate Banfield for the final season of its 15-year run. Were she to get a lead nod and then win, Angela Bassett would make Emmy history as the first African American actress to prevail for a regular lead role on a drama series. (Read the rest of the article by clicking on ‘Tom O’Neil’, above)
EMMY HISTORY? In 2009!?!?!? Click HERE for the ‘Prime Time’ list… I could find no such list for Daytime, if you know of one, let me know. My current understand is that NO African-American actress has won for Lead or Supporting.
My interpretation of Mr. Bergman’s comments is that he seems to suggest that things are good for him, so they’re good across the board -, but your mileage may vary in your interpretation. It strikes me as odd because the man was in a storyline about his “Vietnamese family” (and they were treated as such, never fully integrated into the Abbott family and then written off as quick as an eyeblink given what should have been a prominent status). Was that not odd? One of the longest running African-American characters on the show was a woman who served as the Abbott maid, Dru and Olivia’s aunt, a woman named ‘Mamie’ (and if you think about the significance of her name, and her status, you get it). Ashley was Liv’s sorority sister and despite having no other real friends, they almost never speak. The YnR made a big production of signing the first lead Asian-American male role in daytime… and then killed him off relatively soon after: Eric Steinberg’s Ji Min Kim.
NO lead actress/supporting actress Emmys for black actresses, not once in the history of the Emmys and Rowell is ‘not playing with a full deck’? Is it possible that Ms. Rowell isn’t crazy, but that she has a different perspective? Is it possible that she’s thinking about the underside of the industry that doesn’t seem to be openly discussed often enough? The side of the industry that has existed without intense scrutiny for far too long? I’m disheartened when thinking that Ms. Rowell spoke out, alone, and that there were no real advocates on her side – at least none that I could find. I’m disheartened to think that some of her colleagues still seem to think it’s perfectly fine to dismiss her as a ‘difficult’ person, instead of a FRUSTRATED person who may believe that she has to fight for thing things that others seem to take for granted in their work. I’ve been there. I know what it’s like to show up day after day and believe that your contribution won’t carry the same weight as others (who may have even contributed less). I know what it’s like to feel obligated to mention the inequalities and to fight for new standard only to realize that to others it means that you’re being ‘difficult’. I’m saddened that Ms. Rowell seems to be dismissed as a stereotypically ‘angry black female’, rather than having anyone address the merits of her argument. That her argument has not been addressed, but that she instead is the focus of any response I’ve heard, suggests to me that there’s something there worth exploring.
I’m glad to hear Kristoff St. John – also on Buzzworthy Radio, speak out about a similar issue, the problem of diversity overall in daytime and specifically on the YnR (There are no comments from anyone associated with the show which have referred to KSJ as being ‘divorced from reality’, as far as I know!). It seems that most of the core Winters family have spoken up about the same issue. You can hear the KSJ interview by clicking HERE.
For the record, I don’t think that the actors, writers, producers, and others are overtly racist. That’s not the point of this article. The point of this article is that no matter where we are in our lives, there are very good people, all of whom mean well, but who sometimes have poor judgment – as with our physician friends above. We are sadly as not introspective about our own ideas, motives, actions as we are judgmental about those of others. As I think about Ms Rowell’s reactions to very serious issues related to racial diversity in daytime, I am empathetic. To not want to be subjected to well-meaning, yet still soul searing, unintentional assaults does not make one:
- mean and nasty
- too ‘PC’
- too sensitive
- too outspoken
or any other adjective you might add with a similar sentiment. It just makes you tired and, yes, sometimes a little angry. There’s a reason Ms. Rowell has continued to be embraced by so many African-American viewers, and not just as ‘Drucilla’. I would love for her to continue to speak out, and for others to listen, and to ultimately correct any situation that bears correcting.
Edited to add a great big special thanks to the brilliant-as-always Adampascalfan for the comment about Debbie Morgan. I found this: “…The talented thespian, who portrays sensible and nurturing Dr. Angela Baxter Hubbard on ABC’s long-running soap opera, became the first (and) only African-American actress to win a Daytime Emmy Award in 1989 when she won (in a tie-can’t the Emmy jurors let a sister get her shine on solo?) when she won for Best Supporting Actress…” Essence
Just one of several questions and answers from Michael Logan’s insightful interview:
You’ve stayed true to Y&R since the day you arrived. Unlike many other actors in daytime, you never quit to go pursue other roles.
I’ve never left and I’ve been on the show for nearly 30 years now. What the soap medium has given me is a chance to play a huge scale of emotions that one rarely has a chance to play in primetime or film, and I have appreciated that enormously. But, as it turns out, the contracts you sign are not worth the paper they’re written on thanks to this ridiculous clause where they have a right to change anything or let you go every 26 weeks. It’s a joke. Our union ought to be ashamed of itself for having [allowed] this. And for the show to actually invoke that clause after one has served loyally and lovingly for 30 years is unconscionably ungracious.
Many fans have stayed loyal, too, and we’re also getting the big kiss off when TPTB keep killing off and getting rid of beloved vets and giving us ‘substitutes’ instead. Read the rest of this interview by clicking HERE. The entire enterview is a ‘must read’ for any daytime fan, not just fans of the YnR, or TGVN, Himself!
This is not yet another blog about the ‘death of daytime’. There are plenty of those – though I would never say that there could ever be ”too many’ if the goal of the ‘daytime death’ writers is to get you to see what a mockery you’re making of the genre. The “daytime death” writers are writers who are hopeful that you’ll stop talking about the ‘know-nothing’ soap fans you seem to believe deserve only 1- ridicule for their opinions and 2- your ‘enlightened’ view of daytime. They seem to hope that you’ll finally start listening to us. What they don’t realize is the fact that you haven’t listened to us all along means that you probably won’t listen at this late stage of the game. Why you aren’t listening is a mystery. It’s a question I’ve asked both directly and indirectly in various blog entries (not that you read them). I think I finally understand why you’ve refused to give us what we wanted, when you could have done so long before you hit the point of no return in the ratings.
It would mean that you would have to admit that you were wrong, that you didn’t know us better than we know ourselves. Your choice was to embrace falling ratings as long as you were able to present your vision of daytime. Like any bad ‘marriage’, things weren’t going to get better as long as only on ‘side’ was compromising. We, the fans, were always willing to compromise and bend, until you broke us – see GH’s Scrubs’ PPD storyline, the Mob Storyline, and Liz and Jason as example..
We are now at a bitter end and as much as most of daytime often sucks, it will still be a bitter end for many of us who love the genre, just not what it became. It’s a tragedy that the shows you’re now offering will probably be better remembered than the glorious daytime history you ran away from. To TPTB specifically at The Guiding Light, the untimely death of the show was announced on April 1st. (so, someone up at the executive suites has a wicked sense of humor. I would have accepted a real interest in saving daytime, instead) That means that there were probably around 3 to 4 weeks of the show filmed and in the can, ready to air, That means that by May-June the writers should have been able to turn the show around rather than give fans a steady diet of doom and gloom that the show has become before it ends. While I have nothing good to say about the Bold and Beautiful as it currently airs, what I can say that’s relatively positive is that BnB writers know how to ditch a ratings dropping storyline in a matter of weeks (See Brooke and Nick pairings 1, 2, 3 and nearly 4). It’s unclear to me how you who run GL haven’t managed to make us feel good about what’s left of the show.
To all of you -powers that be, in general, I hope to appeal to you from a different perspective. Daytime is dying, and it’s not completely your fault. The market is changing, the population is changing, our options for entertainment have changed. You didn’t necessarily ‘kill’ daytime. You just assisted in its early death. You refused to accept the changes and refused to allow daytime to ‘grow up’. Not appealing? I didn’t think so, but here’s what might appeal to you:
Whether or not you’re thinking about it this way, what happens at the end of your shows means that you’re working on two fronts. 1 – You’re determining your legacy in daytime, and 2 – You’re auditioning for your future jobs. The gods of prime time may or may not watch daytime. I can only believe that they’ll be highly skeptical of hiring daytime writers, producers, and directors based on your current work. Your legacy appears to be an unwillingness to do whatever you have to in order to right the ship… you prefer to continue forward on a dangerous course and sink the ship. The gods of prime time might even pay attention to what fans have to say about how you handled the shows they loved for decades, understanding that those fans are unlikely to follow you to new projects. Prime time shows don’t typically last beyond 5 – 6 seasons. There is an eventual and much quicker ‘end’ for those shows than there is for daytime. What will you do to prime time fans if you continue screwing over fans who’ve followed your daytime shows for decades? What do you have to offer prime time overall? Where will YOUR vision of storytelling fit in with prime time? Which prime time shows:
1. … bring characters back from ‘the dead’ so many times that it’s not even worth holding a funeral, mourning a death, or issuing a death certificate? Yes, it’s one of those events that’s written off as a ‘typical daytime storyline’. When the ‘back from the dead’ storylines made sense, fans could tolerate them. Now? They’re offered without thought about the impact they have on the current set of storylines. They’re offered despite the fact that they make a mockery of storylines fans have seen ‘in full’… what character comes back from the dead after nearly a week in an OPEN casket, and having been kissed good-bye by relatives? No funny smells? Ya’ couldn’t tell you were kissing a wax dummy in a wig? Great, BnB. Not much better GL, DAYS, OLTL, GH, and all other shows on air.
2. …frequently use misattributed paternity (or maternity) with almost every pregnancy? The alternate problem pregnancy storylines include: Man/woman sleeps with the wrong person – some villain who reveals her/himself too late and a pregnancy happens. YAWN! Where do you see that happening repeatedly on any prime time show? (All soaps)
3. … use the ‘buried alive’ storyline to teach a character a lesson? Any time you see the ‘buried alive’ storyline in prime time, the buried victim is just that, a VICTIM, not a busybody know-it-all who has to be taught a lesson. The perpetrator is considered PSYCHOTIC since burying a person alive is considered a PSYCHOTIC behavior. In daytime? He (and the perp is more often a ‘he’ than ‘she’) is considered ‘misunderstood’. He’s defended by the people who love him, and he never serves jail time. I just don’ t see you being hired on CSI – any franchise, Law and Order – any franchise, Criminal Minds, etc, etc, etc… Shame on you DAYS for using this storyline multiple times.
4. … feature mothers and daughters (or fathers and sons for that matter) sharing the same love interests, both being in love with the same man and both carrying children for the same man? Prime time tends to treat that sort of behavior as pathological, or at least pseudo-incestuous. The BnB stands out as daytime’s most incestuous daytime show.
5. …use rape to ‘redeem’ women thought of as ‘bad girls’? Which prime time shows offer rape as romance? The storylines you often tell aren’t about where couples ‘end up’ in prime time. They’re about where couples ‘start out’. There’s an assault (date rape or otherwise), the assault is investigated, a suspect is arrested, there is a trial. The end. For you in daytime? Where do your rape survivor-rape perpetrator end up? The woman realizes that the man who assaulted her isn’t all that bad (whether he drugs her, holds a gun on her, threatens the people she loves, etc). He only raped her because he couldn’t control his passion for her. In fact, it’s not even rape. It was just a bad night… so you have them marry, and have children, and pretend the assault never happen. (All are guilty).
Were “rape-as-romance” storylines around in the ‘glorious days’ of daytime? Yes.
Were sexist, racist, orientationist storylines around as well? Yes.
The difference between now and then? We didn’t know better then, we do NOW, and you’re refusing to change. Daytime must be a pretty insular world where nothing has to change, characters aren’t required to grow, and no one ever has to learn from a mistake, crimes are just about people having a little fun or “behaving badly” so what’s the sense in punishing anyone?
Good luck selling your staple storylines to prime time big wigs who want to know what you have to offer them. Good luck trying to convince them that even if you haven’t been able to come up with an imaginative storyline in the (x) years you’ve worked in daytime, you can do just for them. Good luck trying to convince them that you understand the current prime time audience when you can’t even figure out what to do to keep the relatively forgiving and loyal daytime audience happy.
Most of all? Good luck convincing them that you won’t screw their fans over in the end as so many of you are doing now with daytime audiences. Daytime soaps once honored fans and their shows’ histories as they concluded. It was important to let the fans know that the writers, directors, producers and other powers-that-be had done the best they could, and wanted fans to remember the show fondly now that it would no longer air.
Good luck. You’ll need it.
Don Diamont is as hot as SIN! In case you haven’t seen him since leaving the role of Brad Carlton on The Young and The Restless, he’s sporting a new look so sexy that makes me think very bad thoughts… and feeling absolutely no shame for it! The man is just gorgeous. Obviously his incredibly hot super-hotness carries over to the character he’s currently playing on The Bold and The Beautiful: Bill Spencer Jr. As we’ve been reminded several times through BSJ’s dialogue, his friends refer to him as “Dollar Bill”.
Dollar Bill would remain ‘hot’ if it weren’t for the fact that my television speakers work just fine. Without sound? Dollar Bill is the object of my lust. With Sound? I just want to see someone, ANYONE, slap him silly. He’s beginning to make my skin crawl. Think part adolescent male, part sexual predator; the maturity of the former, the EFFIN’ ICK of the latter.
I’m not impressed with men who treat women as the ‘marrying’ kind vs the ‘banging’ kind. I’m not impressed with men who think that it’s ok to refer to women as ‘whores’ or ‘sluts’ and to offer them money to sleep with you – even if the ‘slut’ you’re talking to doesn’t sleep around (or has at the very LEAST she’s slept around far less than you have). Most of us know that that sort of language comes from weak, controlling, and insecure men. So why create a character who thrives on demeaning, sexualizing, and trivializing women!?!?!
Dollar Bill is at risk of becoming a caricature of a man. He’s a man trapped in a time warp, three and a half decades too late for the kind of behavior he exhibits. He’s one open shirt/hairy chest/excessive gold chain display from being a very VERY bad joke. The only thing halfway saving him is DD’s ability to pull the character from the edge as much as possible. The Young and Restless’ loss is potentially The Bold and The Beautiful’s gain – it’s just a matter of how much longer the writers are going to make Dollar Bill unlikable. At this point, I don’t hate the guy, but I do flash back to Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd as the ‘Czech Brothers’ when he’s on screen.
For as long as SNL lets this clip stay posted:
At some point, daytime writers are going to have to look around and realize that the male characters they’re writing just aren’t appealing to most women any more. They’re not ‘cute’ when they flirt with every woman in your family. They’re not ‘sexy’ when they blackmail you into sleeping with them. They’re not ‘toe-curling’ when they admit they’ve only been using you for sex and to drive your family crazy.
It’s even WORSE when women are dumbed-down to defend their actions and to fight the world while protecting these guys. I’d love to see Dollar Bill turned around and to have a strong woman come along and raise the standards for this guy – someone who wouldn’t tolerate his bullcrap. It would make me feel like less of a hypocrite to be disgusted by men like Bill in my real life, and to watch him demean women in HIS reel life. Daytime is causing a lot of cognitive dissonance for me and viewers like me. More of us are tuning out the ‘Dollar Bills’ and weak women of daytime.
Phillip asks Kay to sign the divorce agreement:
Kay wants custody of Phillip… Uses Pictures of Jill and John as leverage:
Kay wants to expose Jill’s affair to John Abbott
By ‘we’, I mean TPTB in charge of daytime. Some time ago I was convinced that strong women were making a comeback in daytime. What a fool I was. If the above subject header isn’t a strong enough descriptive slogan for daytime writers, execs, and others, try this one on:
“We hate children and the women who carry them!”
The only woman with balls on this show is the uber-psychotic Helena Cassadine , and she’s carrying the biggest shiniest brass set around! Oh yes, I used the term ‘balls’. Without ‘balls’ you may as well not exist in daytime. Apparently having ovaries makes you weak… and stupid.
Jason/Carly/Jax: I only thought The Bold and The Beautiful was awful when it comes to the treatment of women and children, but more on that later. If you’re associated with the BnB, GH gives you cause for celebration. I’m still processing the idea that Carly would rather share the moment that she finds out she’s pregnant with Jason instead of her HUSBAND. If you’re keeping track? The Mob boys are now practicing midwifery and other forms of OB/GYN arts… Apparently killing the ‘bad’ mob boys is a sideline profession for the ‘good’ mob boys. They’re now jack(asses) of all trades!
Would it have been too much to ask for Jax to know about his wife’s condition BEFORE Carly’s mob pals? Jason even got to read the pregnancy stick???? Good soapgod! How much effort would it have been for the writers to have Carly turn to Bobbie, you know her mother and an expert NURSE!?!?! She could have talked with Bobbie about her fears of losing this baby, received sage medical advice, and bonded more deeply with her mother in the process. Oh wait, I forgot… “Pre-head injury Jason” was pre-med before he got into the ‘kill’ game… that trumps Bobbie’s thirty plus years of nursing. It’s making sense to me, now. Jason’s dangle vs. Bobbie’s experience. No contest. Jason wins.
Jax was always concerned that Carly would never truly put him first in their marriage… She did the best she could to make him feel that he mattered, but when it mattered most? Carly turned to Jason. cShould we bet whether the writers have her name the kid ‘J’ – that’s it, just an initial. She’ll tell Jax it’s to ‘honor’ him, but secretly she’ll know the kid is named after ‘uncle’ Jason, too. Should we bet Vegas odds on whether the kid even makes it through the full nine months? If it makes it nine months, should we bet on how long it takes the writers to make it someone else’s or kill the child off?
If you’re not a daytime viewer, those questions probably seemed cruel. If you ARE a daytime viewer, you probably wish there was no basis for asking such questions. Given how frequently both events happen (child death or misattributed paternity), soap fans are holding their collective breath, waiting to see which of the two events happens. Live births are so rare in daytime, by comparison.
Sonny and Claudia: I’m still counting on the writers to reveal that the hitman who shot Michael was in fact hired by someone else, someone Sonny can kill without having to debate just how or when. That Claudia thinks that being pregnant with Sonny’s child will save her is almost funny. Well, it would be funny if it weren’t so tragic and misguided a belief.
Someone should inform Claudia that Sonny put a bullet in the head of his LAST wife while she was giving birth to his child. Yes, yes… accident! He thought she was in trouble and thought he was firing at Alcazar. The trouble is that he fired off a round in a home where he KNEW his pregnant wife was being held and that she was close to her due date. Obviously, the thought of ‘Sonny the hero’ mattered more than ‘Sonny the father of a live child and husband to a living wife’. Considering how many wives, children, and lovers he’d lost to death before that, you can see how, just maybe, his perspective is a little skewed.
Child or no, I can’t imagine the writers having Sonny kill off Claudia. As much as I try to fight it, Maurice Bernard and Sarah Brown have amazing onscreen chemistry and no amount of time apart has been able to diminish that fact. Personally, I think Claudia is too good for Sonny, but that’s me. If the writers are going to clear Claudia of Michael’s accidental shooting, I hope they do it SOON. There’s nothing ‘sexy’ or ‘romantic’ or ‘thrilling’ about watching a pregnant woman try to figure out how to stay alive after giving birth to the newest heir to the mob kingdom.
By the way, just how when and WHY did the writers decide to make the shift from having every child conceived by Sonny die early in the mother’s pregnancy, to having him populate half of the town’s children? Unless Port Chuckles decides to toss aside the laws against unlawful unions between sibs, SOMEONE else in that town had better start having children and FAST! Ric thinks the child is his? I’m pretty much hoping he’s right though it really doesn’t solve that many problems. He and Sonny share DNA. To my knowledge, this is the first daytime pregnancy created to protect the mother from potentially being killed at the hands of the father/or uncle, whichever Sonny turns out to me. You won’t find THAT in a Harlequin novel! Amateurs!
Robin, Patrick, Emma: First, let me get the chick stuff out of the way right now… O-M-G!!!!!!!! The baby playing Emma is SO CUTE! I’d take that baby in a heartbeat, she’s such a doll! What a sweetie pie! Great casting for a Scrubs baby.
Second? Lucky freakin’ baby – sitting on Patrick’s lap and all. Move over kid!
Third? Oh.HELL.NO…In the neverending quest to turn GH into the barely-modern version of Father Knows Best, who didn’t know that Robin would keep beating back EVERY advancement made in the PPD storyline? Who didn’t know she’d throw out her meds? Who didn’t know that she’d backslide on therapy? What was the point of her lying to Patrick about keeping her appointments? Who DIDN’T know that Robin would make some sort of tragic mistake with Emma? Robin has ovaries, after all.
I’ve hit a new frustration level with the treatment of the Scrubs family. I miss the ABC Daytime that had a longstanding tradition of treating real life social issues with sensitivity, accuracy, and great care. I’d hoped that would happen with the PPD storyline and that it would be treated as both informative and as a showcase for KM’s talent. I thought that much of what we would see is a depressed Robin unable to hold her child, drifting from her family, possibly walking away and deserting her child and husband. I thought we’d have Patrick unable to function, supported by both sets of parents and Mac. I thought we would get to watch Robin’s mother and father begin to help her by admitting their own failures as parents and begging her to break the cycle and fight to be there for Emma. I kept my fingers crossed… but I should have known better.
Writers/EPs/execs who seemingly hate daytime children and the women who carry them couldn’t possibly conceive of a storyline that didn’t include potential harm to a child! Isn’t it bad enough that GH fans began referring to baby Scrubs as ‘the Keebler Emma’ after Robin left her in a tree, this past winter? (Is it a mere coincidence that ABC was also the home of the serial ‘Men in Trees’? Men… Babies.. the viewer’s nerves! All up in trees these days.) Honest to goodness, can you even tell anyone who isn’t a soap fan about that scene? Geez. If it happened on the prime time show Scrubs, it would have been played for laughs and the writers would have made it perfectly clear that they were going for camp.
What’s next? GH fans refer to poor Emma as “Rock-a-bye Emma”? Come on, writers. There’s nothing exciting about watching an infant flipping down the stairs in a stroller because her mom hasn’t taken her anti-depressants and is too busy fighting about NOT being treated for PPD. It’s so horrifying to me that I turned the channel, and I can’t see myself tuning in Monday to find out what happens next. You, dear readers, will have to tell ME. Whatever it is, it most likely includes Patrick leaving Robin and another woman helping him ‘mend’ his broken heart- until the new love’s ovaries cause her to become unworthy of love in some way, too.
Not the only offender
GH isn’t alone in treating women and their children like spare parts; it’s just the worst offender in my book. How typical is it that two women end up pregnant by the same man? One, inevitably, has to lose her child – so that the other can plot to steal the living child and pass it off as her own (Days of Our Lives/Young and the Restless writers, if you’re feeling guilty right now? You SHOULD!). Don’t forget the plots in which women are duped into believing that their baby’s daddies have returned to their spouses and other children, so she has to abort, or attempt to abort, her child to protect HIS happiness (Young and the Restless, The Bold and The Beautiful)’
The Bold and the Beautiful deserves special mention. Anyone who knows me knows that Taylor Hamilton Hayes Forrester Marone is one of my LEAST favorite soap characters, but not even she deserved to be turned into a spare womb! Unable to conceive because her eggs were deemed inviable, Taylor and then husband Nick Marone chose to conceive using a donor egg. Of course, within hours after giving birth, Taylor found out that through a hospital mix-up she’d been impregnated with an egg from Brooke Logan Forrester – a woman she hated. Once she’d realized she couldn’t stay married to Nick, who began developing feelings for Brooke again, she decided to make a clean break from him and leave their marital home. Nick’s response? To call Brooke to come ‘home’ to him and ‘their’ son – before Taylor’s car was barely out of the driveway. He later decided to deny Taylor her parental rights, and Little Jack Marone has had TWO stepmothers since then. One womb is as good as another it seems.
Guiding Light? I can’t tell you how absurd it is that the writers had Reva Shayne Lewis TWICE undergo menopause, only to undergo chemo and radiation and still give birth to a healthy baby boy. Words fail me. A woman is only as good as her ovaries, I guess. <sigh>
As much as I’ve loved As The World Turns‘ Henry and Vienna, Katie and Brad, it was more than just a little uncomfortable watching the four friends share a hospital room as Vienna was undergoing an in vitro procedure to become a surrogate carrying what was supposed to be Katie and Brad’s child. Henry’s reaction was what you’d expect – excessive. Henry was so nervous and uncomfortable that he forced Brad to turn around so that he couldn’t ‘watch’. Henry also accidentally knocked Brad’s sperm sample to the ground. It was supposed to be funny. For me, it wasn’t. Sorry, but all I could think about, while Brad dragged Katie out to help him ‘make more’, was who’d have to clean it up (yeah yeah, no one it’s just a soap, but you know what I mean!) and if everyone was supposed to wait around until Brad and Katie returned.
One Life to Live... good times! Remember when Todd made Blair think their son was dead because he thought she’d cheated on him? Then he had her adopt the son he’d initially placed for adoption after he found out that Jack really was his? OLTL writers have topped themselves in the ‘ovaries leading to crazy grief’ storylines. Jessica now has to learn that the child she conceived with her now deceased husband has also died, and that one of her alters stole her cousin’s baby – born on the same night. Two pregnancies, one dead infant, more heartbreak to come. CAN’T WAIT!
What use to be a joyous occasion has become one of the most depressing events in daytime. The words ‘we’re pregnant’ are my two least favorite words in daytime, lately.